Would you be shocked, offended or apathetic if I told you I haven’t had any female guests on the podcast in over 6 years? Yes that’s right, somehow six years have gone by since the last time Fire On Your Head welcomed a female guest. Not because we’re sexist, but like as I explained in the introduction, none of the people I’ve invited on the podcast in recent years have gotten back to me.
So, we finally break that streak and welcome author of the forthcoming book, God’s Feminist Movement, Amber Picota to the show.
I spend the introduction explaining the delay in an upcoming episode of the podcast and how I flubbed the email exchange with a high profile guest’s assistant. In the end it wasn’t that big of a deal, but if you want to read the article about it and skip forward to the interview with Amber, you can read my last blog post about it here.
15:05 – We start off talking about writing on her blog, which has helped her hone in on her writing craft so as to help prepare her for this upcoming book. At this point we discussed the pros and cons of repurposing blog content into a book, and the challenges I faced when I published my first Kindle book and found that Amazon flagged some of the content in it on copyright grounds due to having had several posts copied and pasted or curated to other websites.
18:42 – I asked Amber how she scored a book contract with Destiny Image Publishers and we compared details of how her book came about and how Nine Lies People Believe About Speaking in Tongues came to their attention. A lot of similarities but yet a lot of notable differences between our publishing process. Amber shares how her time so far in the Welton Academy also led to her going through the Scripture with a new set of eyes to see things we’re oftentimes conditioned to accept without question. Shortly after this Amber tells us she attended webinars with Doug Addison about book writing and shortly after that someone at Destiny Image reached out to her on Facebook asking her if she could fill out a book proposal form.
26:34 – I shared some of my experience and we transitioned into discussing what I found are the differences between self-publishing and traditional publishing. My favorite part of the process with Destiny Image was having a team of people all working on something I created (cover artist, editor, sales manager, etc…). We spend this section discussing the process we both went through getting our books ready for publication.
36:52 – At this point I ask Amber about God’s Feminist Movement and what it is. We’ve heard a lot of prophetic voices talk about how God is turning the hearts of the fathers to the hearts of the sons, but what about… the mothers? There’s not men-bashing in this movement, but it’s about being co-heirs in Christ and advancing his Kingdom together. One key point Amber makes is that a lot of what we’ve taught and believed concerning gender roles in the Body of Christ is that we do the reverse: if we’re doing it, we’ve assumed it must be in the Bible. A lot of what we’ve done comes from traditions that have been passed down from generation to generation. Amber confronts a lot of these things in her book and tells us her book is thoroughly researched and Biblically founded.
Amber tells me at this point her book is not about women in ministry, but gives us some of her recommendations that tackle that subject:
- Powerful & Free by Danny Silk
- Fashioned to Reign by Kris Vallotton
- Normal Christianity by Jonathan Welton
- Playing Second Fiddle: God’s Heart for Harmony Regarding Women and the Church by Judi Peers
We also discuss Ephesians 5 and talk about how submission works both ways, not just the woman to the man in the marriage relationship.
63:26 – We need to keep our hearts pure. We could receive the revelation that women can preach, but if we carry ourselves with a bad attitude from past hurts, it might not matter. Bitterness and hurt can inform our current revelations, no matter how right or Biblical we may be in our stances. If we get used to walking with a limp, people can still see that we’re limping, whether we deny there’s anything wrong or not.
68:00 – Amber begins her testimony and the rest of our chat today is all about her rebellion and return to God, and then her journey with her husband as youth pastors and then what God has them doing now.
Order Amber’s book, God’s Feminist Movement here.
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